From: (Tony Lindsey) xxltony@cts.com
Subject: Mac*Chat#113/20-Jun-96
Mac*Chat#113/20-Jun-96
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Highlights Of This Issue
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I ask for humorous stories and jokes, QuickTime VR sites, and
hard-disk-recovery techs, readers recommend tools of use to Mac
techs, we wind up discussion of inexpensive color printers, Tara
Merrigan asks for a way to exchange long-filename documents with
Windows 95, we hear about many more utilities and what they're
good for, Maarten Hazewinkel tells us how to maintain aliases
from one drive to another, the discussion of online Chat programs
continues, and we learn a bit more about Apple's Cyberdog
software.
Topics:
Highlights Of This Issue
Send Me Your Best Online Humor
Where Are Some Good QuickTime VR Treats?
Who Does Hardware Recovery From Dead Hard Drives?
Tools For Technicians
Color Printers
Pc Exchange For Windows 95?
Favorite Utilities, Continued
Technical Section Starts... Here
Alias Tips
Chatting Programs
Cyberdog
Legalisms
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Send Me Your Best Online Humor
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By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>
For some reason, I've been craving humorous snippets in my
e-mail. Please pick out your favorite jokes and send 'em along
to me. They don't have to be about computers in specific, but I
want 'em laugh-out-loud funny. I'll salt the next few issues
with tasty nuggets for everybody to enjoy.
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[Here's a copy of something I received the other day from my
husband Dennis... We swap stuff from work all of the time:]
True story from a Novell NetWare SysOp:
Caller: "Hello, is this Tech Support?"
Tech Rep: "Yes, it is. How may I help you?"
Caller: "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my
warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?"
Tech Rep: "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?"
Caller: "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer."
Tech Rep: "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because
I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade
show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark
on it?"
Caller: "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a
promotional. It just has '4X' on it."
At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he
could not stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of
the CD-ROM drive as a cup holder, and snapped it off the drive.
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By: Joseph Schaller <Schaller@aol.com>
For a good laugh, call...
<http://www.npr.org/~scifri/wacky.html>
The best collection of tag lines (signatures) I've seen.
Where Are Some Good QuickTime VR Treats?
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By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>
I have a few cool Quicktime VR (Virtual Reality) movies that I
got from somewhere a while ago. If you haven't seen 'em, they
are ultimately cool. Using your mouse, you can see twirl around
in a 360-degree view of a desert, building or car interiors, and
other stuff like that. If you use the Control and Option keys,
you can zoom in and out. It's eerily exciting on a PowerMac.
Every time I show them to cynical anti-Mac Bigots, their pupils
dilate and they start stammering.
I would love to point-out some cool places to download more VR
(and regular) movies and an appropriate player, but I can't
remember where I got mine. Anybody want to help out? I want the
GOOD stuff. I tried the BMW Z3 site, but the images were
corrupted (a month or so back).
Who Does Hardware Recovery From Dead Hard Drives?
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By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>
I've been asked recently to find a company that will do whatever
it takes to recover recent data from a seriously croaked hard
drive (yes, they are buying a tape drive now). I lost whatever
contact-information I used to have, so now I'm asking my wisest
Faithful Readers for recommendations.
Tools For Technicians
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[In issue #112, I asked for a good place to find a Torx T-8
screwdriver. I had wasted a lot of time and energy trying to
track one down for my Powerbook. When I went to Sears, the
teenaged salesperson assured me that there was NO Torx
screwdriver smaller than a T-10...]
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By: George <GASIII@aol.com>
If you look in the screwdriver section, the smallest they have at
Sears is a Torx-10. But there is a different section of smaller
tools. Fine Tools. Something like that.
I got mine there. It is a small wall display unit with Torx 6
through 10.
Black plastic handles.
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By: Dave Reiser <dbr@prolog.net>
Get a Craftsman part # 41681 for your Torx T8 needs. It's less
than 5 inches long, the duty end is 1.6 inches long (and it sure
beats those 1/4 inch hex drive bits for access to recessed
screws). It costs less than $2.
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By Bruce O'Neel <bruce.e.oneel.1@gsfc.nasa.gov>
Two easy solutions.
1. Buy a memory upgrade. I just bought a 32meg one for $350 or so
for my 520. It came from Newer Tech and they include the
necessary screwdrivers.
Newer Technology, Wichita, Kansas
<800-678-3726/316-685-4904/FAX 316-685-9368>
<sales@newertech.com><http://www.newertech.com>
2. Buy the toolkit for memory upgrades:
MacWarehouse, 1720 Oak Street, PO Box 3013 Lakewood, NJ
08701-9917
<800-255-6227/908-370-4779/800-325-3166 Canada>
<http://www.warehouse.com>
has item #ACC1535 Power User Powerbook Toolkit for $4.95, which
gives you a wrist strap and Torx screwdriver with T-8 on one end
and T-10 on the other for opening your PB and installing modems
and RAM and stuff.
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By Daniel W. Collison <Daniel.W.Collison@Hitchcock.ORG>
Buy the best tools you can afford; they'll last at least one
human lifetime and are a pleasure to use. Craftsman tools, sold
at Sears, are nearly the best and there's always a Sears around
the corner if you need help or replacement. Craftsman screw
driver sets go on sale every 3-4 months. It's a great set, has a
lifetime warranty, and includes 2 Torx screwdrivers (which are
also helpful when changing auto headlamps). If you can't afford
screwdrivers, sometimes a set of Allen wrenches will work in Torx
slots; I remember getting long Allen wrenches (for opening
compact Mac cases) as part of SIMM upgrade kits in the past; they
worked fine.
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By Lee A. Joramo, Colorado <leejor@ni.net>
You are looking for Jensen Tools Inc. [Catalogs are free]
<http://www.jensentools.com><jensentools@primenet.com>
<800-426-1194/602-968-6231/fax 602-438-1690>
7815 S. 46th Street, Phoenix, AZ 85044-5399
In fact, I first learned about Jensen in my quest for a Torx T-8
last December. Their 240 page Master Catalog has every imaginable
tool a computer consultant could want. (Aside from a 15 pound
sledge hammer ;-)
[Back when I was a Navy Radar Tech, we used sledgehammers for
"impact tuning." :->]
While they do sell all of the tools individually, I think you are
best off to start with one of their hundred odd Kits. Their kits
contain from 10 to over 100 tools and are tailored to a wide
variety of purposes such as PC Repair, Networking, Telephony and
Medical equipment. If Jensen does not have a prefab kit to meet
your needs, or you already have some tools in a kit, they will
create a custom kit for you at no extra charge.
I recently purchased Jensen's "JTK-5 Network and PC Maintenance
Kit". It contained 48 tools for $340. While that _is_ a lot of
money, I have no doubt that is was worth every penny. All of the
tools are of the highest quality and will last a lifetime. The
rugged Cordura nylon case is well designed so that every tool has
a secure place. There is plenty of room for additional tools,
test equipment and even a laptop.
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By: Mark Hodges, Beaverton, Oregon <mhodges@oregon.cray.com>
I've been whacking Macs professionally (or getting paid for it)
for 10 years, and have a short list of tools:
Torx screwdrivers: T 8,9,10 (why make it easy?). Can find at a
good hardware store, tool store, or auto parts store.
Static mat: 3M makes a very nice portable one.
AC line tester: one of those cubes you plug into the wall, LED's
tell you if the AC is hooked up OK. Use it before you ground
yourself to the AC. I once found 80 volts on a so-called ground,
so best to be careful.
Jeweler's screwdrivers: the large set from Radio Shack is a good
deal.
#2 Phillips screwdriver.
If you buy one of those "PC Tool Kit" jobs you end up with a lot
of tools that you will never use, and will have to buy other
stuff anyway.
Color Printers
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[See issues 110-112 for further discussion of this topic. The
following message is the only dissenting message I've received
about the StyleWriter 2500.]
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By: Michael Kimura, El Segundo, CA <mnk@mass.es.hac.com>
I had a Stylewriter I which I sold with my Mac SE/30. I bought a
Stylewriter 1200 to go along with my Duo 230; but have yet to
open the box and I'm considering in exchanging it for an color
inkjet printer. I had decided on the Stylewriter 2500 until I
read:
<http://www.cnet.com/Content/Reviews/Compare/Inkjet/>
The Stylewriter 2500 got a very poor review. Based on this review
I'm ready to get the HP DeskJet 855Cse or Epson Stylus Pro. Just
thought you might like to reference a conflicting viewpoint.
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By Roland Denning <rolo@rolo.demon.co.uk>
I've been reading a lot of complaints about the Epson Stylus II
printer in MacChat.
May I add a comment and some help - The output is great and the
software certainly is flakey. But there is a workaround that
helps avoid crashes - When you go to print select Options in the
Epson print dialogue box - In options under Color/Halftoning
setting - METHOD select AUTOMATIC.
This seems to cure most of the stability problems.
Pc Exchange For Windows 95?
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By Tara Merrigan <ams@indigo.ie>
This one is for anyone who exchanges files with Windows 95 users.
Does anyone know of a W95-friendly equivalent of PC Exchange?
The solution I've used until now has been MacInDos, which despite
the ugly & clumsy interface, accepted Mac disks & files without
too much hassle.
Ideally I'm looking for some kind of extension, rather than
application, but an application will do if that's all I can find.
MacInDos is effectively useless with W95 & it never supported
long filenames anyhow. Any ideas people?
Favorite Utilities, Continued
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[Back in issue #108, I asked for people's favorite utilities.
I've got quite a few more for the next issue or so.]
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By: Marc Zeedar <zmarc@designwrite.com>
Tony, I'm afraid I don't subscribe to your extension-phobia; my
system has almost three rows of icons on a 21" screen. [Eeek!
Sorry, couldn't help myself.] On average, my machine crashes 2-3
times a week, which is acceptable to me.
On your best Utilities question, I'd also have to recommend Now
Utilities as the best overall value. I refuse to use a Mac
without Now installed. I love Super Boomerang placing my most
recently used files and applications at my fingertips for easy
grabbing (for example the TIFF I just edited in Photoshop is
right there off Pagemaker's "Place" command submenu ready to be
inserted in my layout), and I couldn't live without being able to
redefine my menu's command-key shortcuts.
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By chris jones <jonesc@cshl.org>
One of my favorite utilities is DoubleScroll:
</info-mac/gui/double-scroll-212.hqx>
All it does is put a pair of arrow boxes (whatever they're
properly called) at each end of the scroll bars. Now if you
happen to be near the bottom of your screen and want to move up,
you can slide over to what used to be just the down arrow and go
up -- much less mousing around. Sounds goofy, I know, but I found
I adjusted very quickly, so now I'm constantly catching myself
going for them at work, where we don't have it installed.
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By Stan Hadley, Oak Ridge, Tennessee <hadleysw@ornl.gov>
ApplWindows is freeware from Hiro Yamamoto of Zeta Soft. Not only
does it allow you to switch between windows of an open
application with a modifier key + the up and down arrows, it
allows you to switch between applications with the modifier key +
the left and right arrows, similar to the alt-tab in windows. It
also adds a hierarchical menu to the applications window in the
top right so you can pick which window to open when switching to
a new app. It also allows you to make the entire outside edge of
the screen a hot spot to pop up the application window (with the
heirarchical submenus). It slices! dices! peels! and Boy! does it
catch fish!
</info-mac/gui/appl-window-202.hqx>
Honestly, this utility works great. I've never had a conflict
with other utilities, although I've been too cheap to load up a
lot of other utilities.
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By: <DBNClar1@aol.com>
ApplWindows puts your application menu wherever the cursor is
with a definable hot-key plus a mouse click (no more trips to the
upper right hand corner), allows you to use the arrow keys plus a
definable hot-key to cycle through 1.) open apps (L & R arrows)
and 2.) all the windows open in a particular app (up & down
arrows). You can 1.) hide all the other apps, or 2.) choose
certain apps/DAs that do not hide others, so for instance, you
can open Quicken and your calculator at the same time, or your
internet browser and "Signature File" (Rick Holzgraf - very
useful). I do a lot of editing of documents found on the
internet, and this is a timesaver for me.
Fave Utility #2 - Now Utilities - I use Now Menus to assign hot
keys to frequent apps/files. Can you tell - I'm not a big fan of
the mouse, since it aggravates my RSI problems from my
profession, playing the clarinet.
I use Now Folder Menus to navigate through my chaotic filing
system. It also helps me transfer my Mac*Chat issues from the
download site to the EasyView folder (actually, to the proper
Mac*Chat folder *inside* the EV folder).
[See Issue #73 for the best possible way to read Mac*Chat using
Easy View.]
</info-mac/text/easy-view-261.hqx>
</info-mac/text/easy-view-262-updt.hqx>
Startup Manager saved my bacon with a couple of my daughter's
CD's - I have pared down startup sets for them, because they need
at least 8 MB to run in addition to my bloated system (too many
toys, or is that *utilities*!)
Now Save is a pain, but I use it to force me to remember to save,
and I'm glad for the few times it has mattered. I also use Now
Scrapbook, because it is there, and I've already got it. Don't
need ScrapIt, or some other substitute.
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By Bob Meyer, North suburban Chicago <rbmeyer@interaccess.com>
I nominate Now Utilities. I bought 5.0 in 1/95 and recently
installed 6.0. I don't use every function, but I am very pleased
with NowMenus, Now WYSIWYG and Startup Manager.
Now Menus allows the creation of multiple pull-downs in the
Finder. I have 5, in addition to the Apple Menu, for Internet
apps, CD-ROM masters, my wife's school work, frequently-used
utilities and control panels and my personal files and folders
which I use on an ongoing basis. Every menu can have items which
themselves are directories, i.e. you can include a folder and
then its contents are accessible. System 7.5 does something
similar for the Apple Menu, but when I loaded it I disabled it
and had no problems.
WYSIWYG allowed me to take my huge collection of fonts and
organize them into families. It's those families which appear in
all applications. For example, I have REGULAR, CAPS, ART DECO,
SCRIPT, GRAPHICS, MATH, etc. You can see the actual font in the
menu if you wish. I have done that will all families except
GRAPHICS, since it can get confusing. I rely on my TypeBook lists
to show me the graphic characters.
Startup Manager outperforms Extensions Manager, in that it is
more graphic and gives you more immediate information about each
extension and control panel item. They can be re-ordered, if
necessary. If your system crashes at startup when something
loads, Startup Manager automatically restarts and then tells you
which item caused the crash, and that it has been turned off for
the time being. Multiple sets can also be created.
No, I don't work for Now Software - I just love this product.
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By: Drew VanKrevelen, Minnesota <drew@winternet.com>
The one util that I simply can't do without has got to be
QuicKeys [a commercial product from CE Software]. Whenever I use
someone else's Mac I realize just how much I depend on QuicKeys.
I have a key that drags down the right side of the screen
selecting all mounted disks and temporary documents, then grabs
the top one and drags them all to the trash. I have another for
changing monitor depths, another for adjusting the speaker
volume, another to remind me when it's time to run a backup,
etc., etc... My favorite new QuicKey types all the information
into the form on the Publisher's Clearing House website so I can
enter their $10,000,000 drawing every day. All I have to do is
hit a keystroke to start it up.
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By Robert C. Perkins <rperkins@oic.methodist.edu>
I vote for Stuffit Deluxe. The new 4.0 version continues
Aladdin's tradition of excellence. I don't use SpaceSaver because
I like choosing when and where I do compressions. I've used
Stuffit for years to save space and to collect multiple files
into single files. I have plenty of space (1 gig HD) but
archiving stuff makes disk management simpler.
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By: Stefano Stefani, Los Angeles California <felixst@mbox.vol.it>
My absolute best and essential, a must have for every Mac owner
(especially the net one) utility, is Stuffit Deluxe (period). [This is a
commercial product, available from all mail-order shops]
In my daily netsurfing I've to handle many kind of file (.hqx,
.sit, .cpt, ecc) and I can do it with the Stuffit products
(especially Stuffit Expander)
I'm also a sysop of a FirstClass BBS and all the file in my BBS
are compressed with Stuffit. (DropStuff). You can simply drag &
drop a file or a folder on one of the stuff's products, and all
the work is done.
[Here's where you get the extremely useful (but less powerful) versions:]
</info-mac/cmp/stuffit-expander-401.hqx>
</info-mac/cmp/stuffit-lite-35.hqx>
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By Robert <snoddy@netcom.com>
I have been using CopyPaste for about a year now, and it makes
cut and paste of several items a breeze. It also has several
other little features that are real handy. I have a system
stuffed with all kinds of utilities, but I really think this is
my favorite.
<info-mac/gui/copy-paste-302.hqx>
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By: Gordon Charlton, UK <gordon@charlton.demon.co.uk>
Custom Menus is a control panel that adds the ability to tear off
most menu bar items and leave them floating on the desktop. The
$12 shareware fee is worth it for Eudora alone - filing messages
into mailboxes is sooo much easier with it!
</info-mac/gui/custom-menus-101.hqx>
One can also build customised menus and change the names of menu
items - my news-reader now has a special drop-down menu entitled
"Spam" - it only has one item in it, Delete Message, which I
renamed as "f--- off and die!" If I could incorporate some
suitably gruesome sound effect at that point my delight would be
complete.
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By: Toby <MeowI@aol.com>
NetStripper removes the junk that makes e-mail attachments so
difficult to read for Mac users.
</info-mac/text/net-stripper-300.hqx>
For convenience, I keep an alias of NetStripper on my desktop
(beside Stuffit & Tex-Edit Plus). I use it daily for the many
attachments I receive--including Mac*Chat. After dragging the
attachments (yes, plural; my maximum is dragging 34 at a
time--thus far) onto the NetStripper alias & letting it do its
thing, I open Mac*Chat--or the file of my choice--by dragging it
onto the T-E + alias. Neat!
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By: <Ben_Cox@transarc.com>
Two of my favorites are Escapade, which lets you select buttons
by typing their first letter in any dialog box that doesn't have
a TextEdit field, and, StickyClick, which lets you click once on
a menu and it stays down until you click again. I've never
experienced a crash with either of them.
</info-mac/gui/escapade-132.hqx>
</info-mac/cfg/sticky-click-12.hqx>
Technical Section Starts... Here
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Alias Tips
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By Maarten M Hazewinkel, Netherlands <terkans@euronet.nl>
I do have a few tips for retaining/restoring aliases across
hard-disk reformatting sessions. Some of it won't help you
anymore, since you have already reformatted, but some of it will,
and there's always the next time.
I figured out this method when someone told me that aliases use
the creation date on a volume to find the correct volume to try.
I use the shareware utility "File Buddy" to do most of this.
</info-mac/disk/file-buddy-344.hqx>
The first step is to drop your volume icons on File Buddy, and
make a note of the Creation dates.
Backup your alias files and folders.
Reformat your hard disk(s).
Reinstall your software, and make sure that the folder structure
is the same (same names for folders, etc).
Again, drop your volume icons on File Buddy, and this time, Set
the Creation dates to the same ones that you wrote down earlier.
Restore your alias files and folders.
Your aliases should now work fine. However, you might want to
take an extra step. This last step can also help if you didn't
follow the previous procedure.
Open File Buddy itself by double-clicking.
From the "Cleaning" menu, choose "Check Aliases...".
This will let you check all your aliases, and update their
information, so that they will work faster when you use them
again. Also, you now should be able to move the target files
around in the folder structure, and rearrange that folder
structure without losing the target for your alias.
This will also let you reattach unattached aliases to whatever
files you wish, which can be helpful if you didn't follow the
first procedure.
Chatting Programs
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[This is a follow-up for the last few issues' discussion of
online Chat programs.]
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By: Eric Taylor <taylore@rtd.com>
Best IRC program (No, really!)
Actually, I have tried and disliked both Ircle and Homer--Ircle
because it didn't seem particularly Mac-like in interface and
Homer because it crashes rather frequently. Chris Bergman out of
Australia is in the process of writing a shareware program called
MacIRC. It is much better, IMHO, even in its unfinished state.
The current version can be downloaded from
<http://www.macirc.com/>
So far, MacIRC hasn't crashed on me, and it provides nice
Mac-like windows listing everything from current users in a group
to current groups you can subscribe to. The only thing I really
miss from Ircle is the giant list of servers that the author
embedded in the connection dialog.
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By Kathy Northrop <krif@inetnebr.com>
I think that Homer is a great program if you like to chat. One of
the best channels is the Macintosh channel. There also some areas
where there are local groups meeting. In my experience it puts
services like AOL chats to shame. Although, as with any "chat
areas" you enter at your own risk, but I've received some
excellent help and advice on Macs and just some general
entertainment:) The drawback can be that at times it's difficult
to sign on to one of the numerous servers, but the number is
growing. For example, the "undernet". Overall, it's a great way
to "chat" in real time.
Cyberdog
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[In issue #112, I asked for the status on Apple's Cyberdog, which
allows use of the Internet in a whole new way. Unfortunately, I
can't install it on my Mac until I upgrade to a PowerMac.
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By: Daniel Jarecki <funfor5@execpc.com>
I've been using Cyberdog for awhile. All you have to do is pull
the URL from the web page to a notebook or from email to a
notebook. No copy paste and no lost urls because the Mac froze up
before pasting.
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By Jon Kreisler, Bethpage, New York <jon@grumman.com>
Apple has a web site, just for Cyberdog
<http://www.cyberdog.apple.com/>
You can access the download from there. Right now, v1.0 is Power
Mac only, requires OpenDoc 1.0.4, MacPPP 2.5, Internet Config
1.2, QuickTime 2.1, System 7.5+, 8 MB RAM with Virtual Memory
turned on or 16 MB RAM with VM off, MacTCP or OpenTransport with
TCP/IP. PlainTalk is optional.
(For a simple add-on, this is getting quite complex.)
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