From: (Tony Lindsey) xxltony@cts.com
Subject: Mac*Chat#112/14-Jun-96
Mac*Chat#112/14-Jun-96
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Highlights Of This Issue
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I mention my new web-page address, ask for the best current way
to manage hotlists without breaking stride, readers alert us to
good places to shop for disks, search for Mac-related vendors,
and review the Apple StyleWriter 2500 (VERY positively). We also
find out how Open Transport was tamed on my Mac, and the various
Chat programs that are available.
Topics:
Highlights Of This Issue
Editor's Notes
What's The Best Web-Browser Hotlist Manager?
Zip Disks, Etc.
Tracking Down Vendor Information Online
Inexpensive Color Printers - Apple Color Stylewriter 2500
Technical Section Starts... Here
Open Transport - Triumphant At Last, With Help From My Friends
Chatting Programs
Legalisms
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Editor's Notes
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By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>
I've officially moved my website (saving about $180 a year) - The
new URL is
<http://members.aol.com/xxltony/>
It's a bit trimmed-down, but still pretty similar to the old
site. I haven't had a lot of time for massive changes (yet).
One project at a time.
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The next issue is going to be heavily dedicated to Mac*Chat
Readers' Favorite Utilities - I've got scads of 'em that I
haven't had room for in previous issues.
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What's a good source for computer-consultant-specific hardware
repair kits? I'm trying to find a Torx T-8 screwdriver, and I
may as well get a good toolkit while I'm at it. My Powerbook
520's keyboard is torqued-down so hard that I have to practically
whack it with a ball-peen hammer to do any typing. The two
screws underneath will allow me to adjust it.
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I get hundreds and hundreds of messages in my mailbox every week,
and around 90% of them include some variation of the following
message at the beginning or end:
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By: tomburns@execpc.com
Thank-You for doing MacChat, I look forward to each edition every
week! I Love MacChat.
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You're very welcome! I dearly love to do it, truthfully. It's a
lot overwhelming sometimes, but I really feel like I'm where I
belong. It suits my nature. Thanks to everybody who sends me
such kind words.
What's The Best Web-Browser Hotlist Manager?
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By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>
I've heard of all sorts of programs out there to handle
hot-lists, but here's what _I_ want:
I want to be in my web-browser, cruising around and being
inquisitive. Ooh - I see something I'd like to come back to later
on. Zap - I grab the URL for my hot-list. Boink - I drag the
newest site's name to its proper place in a hierarchical outline
format. I want it that fast, and that easy. Ooh-Zap-Boink.
With my short attention-span, I want to organize things while the
concept is fresh. I hear Apple's Cyberdog is going to be
particularly fine for this purpose - what's the current status on
that? How do I get my hands on an early version?
Zip Disks, Etc.
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[In issue #111, I asked if anybody knew of any good deals on Zip
drive disks...]
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By: hondaman@pop.loop.com (David P. Honda)
The LLB Company sells a 10 pack of Zip cartridges for $139
(that's $13.90 per cartridge), as advertised in MacWeek 6/3/96.
There is no surcharge for using a credit card, they wil ship
overnight (probably for $7), and our sales rep, Steve Jameison,
has given us consistently good service.
LLB
13228 NE 20th St., Suite B
Bellevue, WA 98005
(800) 848-8967
FAX (206) 746-5168
<http://llb.com>
Electronic orders: <73423.1272@Compuserve.com>
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By: "John C. Ranney" <jranney@gonix.com>
About two months ago I got 10 ZIP Disks, MAC format, for $116
shipped. the place was
Micro Center
474 Bethel Rd.
Columbus, OH 43214
No 800 number - <614/326-8535> A nice color newspaper ad came
with the order. They have a lot of specials listed, including CDs
that work on the Mac.
This seems to be a computer super store, but they do mail order.
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By: Michael Rohde <ROHDESIGN@aol.com>
I have found a great source called Optical Express out of
Minneapolis:
Optical Express
109 East Myrtle Street
Stillwater, MN 55082
(800) 844-3475
Fax: (612) 439-7390
I usually talk to Tom Murphy, though anyone there is very helpful.
Also, they have great pricing on Magneto-Opticals and DAT tapes
as well:
128MB Phillips brand MO's $12 each Unformatted, $13
Mac-Formatted 230MB Phillips brand MO's $16 each.
Mac-Formatted 100MB Zip Disks $14.95 each
90M Phillips Dats $6.50 each
Sony DAT Cleaner Tapes $12.50 each
Prices do not include shipping, International orders welcome. And
they have great service!
Tracking Down Vendor Information Online
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[In issue #111, I asked for help in tracking-down companies that
make or sell goodies for the Mac. I received many tips from
readers...]
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By: Leslie Parsons <LKPARSONS@aol.com>
Rather than go through all the effort of more electronic
paperwork sending various questions off to others and collating
the answers and keeping track of same for future issues, you may
find it simpler to just use good ol' AOL.
Command-K-REDGATE or
Command-K-NPS
both bring up the "New Product Showcase" area. One of the nifty
features of this cross-platform area is that it contains a
searchable database from the Redgate Product Information Service.
[Redgate was one of the features of eWorld that I *really*
missed; when I saw your request above I just logged onto AOL and
tried keyword:redgate on a whim. Son of a gun, it worked!]
You can search by vendor or by product.
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By: <CORR@hal.hahnemann.edu>
I have a sprawling Netscape bookmarks file that includes a link
to
<http://www.macfaq.com>
which has a index card database of vendor info with phone, fax,
Web page URL, etc. Sometimes connection to the site is balky. I
suppose I could Whack it (WebWhacker from ForeFront Group at
<http://www.ffg.com>
The site presents a LONG alphabetical index. Each entry links to
a Web page (index card) for each company on the macfaq site. You
can then click on the URL for the company's Web page.
Here are the URLs I use:
<http://www.macfaq.com/faq/vendor/hardware.html>
<http://www.macfaq.com/faq/vendor/software.html>
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By: "Gene W. Hsu" <genehsu@dmsv.med.umich.edu>
Right now, the WWW page that I visit to figure out contact info is
<http://www.macsource.com/links_all.html>
It's pretty complete, as far as I can see.
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By: Kyle Johnson <pkscout@acpub.duke.edu>
Check out the ZD Tech Locator at:
<http://www.zdnet.com/locator/>
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By: MKinsman@pepperdine.edu (Michael Kinsman)
Try <http://www2.apple.com/documents/vendors.html>
[I wish I had room to share the great examples Michael and Leslie
included - Great stuff!]
Inexpensive Color Printers - Apple Color Stylewriter 2500
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[I've heard a lot of praise for this printer. It looks like a
winner!]
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By: Mark Alan Cirino <cirino@island.com>
I was reading in MacChat today about your problems with an Epson
color printer. While I love my Epson scanner, I opted not to buy
an Epson printer after hearing several of my friends complain
about them. I waited until Apple released the Color StyleWriter
2500, and I'm very glad I did. The 2500 is a joy to own. I've set
up a few Epsons and several StyleWriter 2400's for other people,
but the 2500 wins my recommendation hands down.
First, it's very, very fast. I ran a test with a PhotoShop file
on an Epson Stylus II and the 2500, from the same PowerMac 7500.
The results looked just about exactly the same, but the Epson
took 53 minutes to the StyleWriter's 5 minutes to print the page.
Although the Epson's output is 720 x 720 dpi, compared to the
StyleWriter's 720 x 360 output, on coated paper, it's hard to
tell the difference.
The biggest complaint I've heard about Epson printers is the
driver. They seem to be constantly updating and changing the
driver and with every new System software update, their driver
becomes obsolete. With the StyleWriter, I know that I'm going to
get a brand new compatible driver every time Apple updates the
System - and it's free! You can also buy either an AppleTalk or
EtherTalk option for the StyleWriter so it can be networked, and
there's a CD with a locked copy of StyleScript (PostScript RIP)
in the box - just call the 800 number, give them your credit card
and $99 later, you're printing those Illustrator files like a pro.
The coolest thing about the 2500, though, is its energy
efficiency. The printer stays off until you click the Print
button. When you do, the printer turns itself on and immediately
begins printing. After 5 minutes of inactivity, it turns itself
off again. The uncoolest thing is the expense of the ink
cartridges. Studies have shown the Epson printers to be the most
miserly with ink, making them more affordable to operate.
However, I've found that generic cartridges from NuKote, made for
the Canon BubbleJet printers, work just fine and cost about 1/3
less than the Apple or Canon brands.
I got my NuKote cartridges at Office Depot. Apparently, they also
carry some decent inkjet printer paper.
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By: philshap@aol.com (Phil Shapiro)
My wife, who is a freelance graphic designer, recently got an
Apple StyleWriter 2500 for $379 at MicroWarehouse
<800-367-7080/908-367-3786>
<http://www.warehouse.com>
She also got GDT's StyleScript, which comes on a locked CD-ROM
included with the printer ($99 to unlock it). StyleScript is a
licensed Adobe Postscript level 2 interpreter and it does the job
well, although it does eat up a bit of memory (5 Megs by default,
the manual recommends giving it 8 or so). She's used it to print
from Quark, Illustrator, and Photoshop with very good results.
The StyleScript driver installs a printer driver (in addition to
a "server" application), so it appears in the Chooser like it's
another printer. It's actually kind of nice since it looks and
works the same as the Apple LaserWriter 8 page setup/print user
interface.
If you want to print to the 2500 without the postscript driver,
you just select the original 2500 driver in the Chooser.
The quality itself is pretty good, but I guess that's a
subjective thing. I just read a review of it on MacWorld's web
site [From the July 1996 issue] that was pretty positive.
<http://www.macworld.com/q/@683227bpvyyr/pages/july.96/Reviews.2187.html>
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By: Johann Beda <j-beda@students.uiuc.edu>
I'm very pleased with my Color StyleWriter 2500 (about $400)
which ended up costing us essentially nothing since we used some
credit that we had built up with CitiBank's Apple CitiBank Visa
(I think they also have a MasterCard) The credit card has no
annual fee and gives 5% of all purchases as credit towards Apple
hard/software purchases. (Actually you have to send them a
receipt and they then credit your account after you have made the
purchase.) CitiBank cards can also have cute photo's of the
cardholder to help prevent unauthorized use. The Apple credit is
limited to $500 per year, and it expires after three years, so it
isn't as good as it could be, but hey, it just got us a cool
printer, and I expect it to underwrite part of a new CPU in a
year or two. Anyhow, the back of my card gives a phone number of
(800)-950-5114 as customer service.
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By: Aaron Lynch <astudio@powernet.net>
I just returned my Epson Color Stylus II, because it was garbage.
It jammed on every third sheet, the driver went corrupt 3 times a
week, and it conflicted with everything. And Epson was not
helpful at all.
I got an Apple Color Stylewriter 2500. My only gripe is that I only got
about 60 pages out of the Color & Black cartridge!
I bought the bigger High performance cartridge and so far it's
printed 200+ sheets without any jams or hangs.
FYI the Canon BC-20 cartridge is the same as the Apple, and it's
way easier to find ;)
Technical Section Starts... Here
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Open Transport - Triumphant At Last, With Help From My Friends
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By Tony Lindsey <TLindsey@cts.com>
As of this morning, My Powerbook 520 is fully-functioning with
Open Transport and System 7.5.3. I can now have my computer dial
up to the Internet, do stuff quickly, sign off and then sign on
again later. I am deeply satisfied, but it's been a hell of a
week or two...
When I asked for help on the matter in issue #111, I had no idea
that so many Faithful Readers wanted to help Uncle Tony! I
received 736 messages in seven days, filled with REALLY helpful
hints and plenty of attached files.
I've done a lot of thinking on the topic, and I can boil my final
advice down to a few, simple points for other folks who are in
Open Transport Hell:
- Be NICE to your local Service Provider support-staff. They
want to help you.
- If they recommend a particular set of extensions and control
panels and forbid others, follow their advice.
- Don't mess with their heads by loading new, fancy stuff they've
never heard of (example: I loaded FreePPP 2.5rf, when 1.05 works
like a champ, and it's what my ISP techs know inside and out).
I want to thank every single person who flew to my aid when I
needed it, and I have special thanks for Beatriz at CTSnet in San
Diego, Anne-Marie Concepcion in Chicago, Arnaud Zuber in
Switzerland, Sergei Komarov in Moscow, and especially Bill
Stanford in Australia:
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By: Bill Stanford <williams@world.net>
I find myself setting OT 1.1 up on a lot of PowerBooks these
days, both the 500's and 5300's, and we don't have to reboot to
maintain the OT drivers; though we sometimes have to reboot,
every few days (!), to get the System Heap overhead (the "memory
leak") caused by OT under control.
But I think the core of the advice you'll get should look like
this:
*Don't be content with a "clean install" by whatever method.
Start by having all data backed up, and format your 520's HD with
a 7.5.3 compliant utility like FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit v.1.8s.
*For the 520, install System 7.5.0 from a known good set of
installer disks. Don't use ShrinkWrap or Drop*Disk to mount disk
image files; but do use an external drive like a Syquest to
install from folders made by copying over the installer FD's.
When the install is finished, delete all extensions and CP's not
relevant to the PB520 (you know, things like Serial Switcher,
Brightness, etc).
*At this time delete MacTCP 2.0.4 which gets installed with the
Networking Software option - I always use a Custom install - you
don't want the Update 2 installer to see that in your system.
Don't boot off your PB520's HD by the way, run all this from a CD
or from an external HD system. (I run on Disk Tools from the 7.5
installer set, it's a bit slower but it saves sacrificing a black
goat along the way here;-)
*Now do a similar install for the Update 2 set. Don't select
"Classic Networking." You can therefore trash the Network
Software Selector when you've finished, while doing a second
cleanup to check your CP folder and your Extensions folder.
*Load your applications back (from top copies), and your data.
Resist doubtful 3rd party extensions which make your Mac look
like a NeXT;-) In fact, resist 3rd party extensions. Personally
I'm using only the 4 key things from Now Utilities 5.0.2,
PopChar, Capture (now Captivate), and the Wacom tablet driver...
[The following section is where Bill and I diverge in our
opinions - My techs are more-familiar with the older FreePPP (and
I have no energy left to debate with 'em), and I prefer TechTool
for rebuilding the desktop and zapping the PRAM:]
</info-mac/cfg/tech-tool-109.hqx>
*Use FreePPP 2.5rf, and grab 2.5.1 when it appears in a few days
from this writing.
</info-mac/comm/inet/conn/free-ppp-25-rf.hqx>
*Now you should rebuild the PB hard disk's Desktop files - I use
a Finder Bits editor to make these visible at this point, and
trash both Desktop files manually. Reboot on your external
system, zapping the PRAM with Command-Option-P-R as you do so,
and wait for the desktop to rebuild. Now you can boot off your
new 7.5.3 HD system.
Yes, this is being very careful, but OT1.1 is still a bit buggy,
as you know. But nobody I know who has used OT for a few days
would go back to MacTCP, even with the occasional problem.
I know this is the "replace the logic board" version of system
install... I'd call it doing a "Very Clean Install"!
[This worked well for me, except now I'm laboriously rebuilding
my System folder and aliases - I'm also digging through several
feet of desk-clutter to find my original Datebook Pro diskette,
since that program has now forgotten that I own it, because I
re-formatted my hard-drive. I can't get at my appointment
calendar, and my clients are getting cranky! Time to call for
support, I guess.
Thanks again to all of the great folks who sent me Open Transport tips.]
Chatting Programs
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[In issue #111, Joe Naff asked about programs that allowed people
to chat directly with each other over the Internet. I noticed a
certain pattern in the responses - people felt very strongly
about their preferences - I suspect that it all depends on
whether you're logical or visual in your thinking.]
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By: Frank English <frank@english.microserve.com>
You might want to try Global Chat by Quarterdeck Corporation
<http://arachnid.qdeck.com/chat/>
Its available for FREE download from their web page. It was
designed for their servers but supports all IRC servers. Very
simple to use. I run a user group chat for the Hershey Apple Core
<http://www.microserve.com/hac>
We picked it because of its ease of use. Homer was a little buggy
and hard to get set up when you just get started. Global chat
also works as a netscape helper so you can just click on a chat
to go to it.
If you're looking for a reasonable, sane server to talk on (on
some servers there is more fighting than talking...) try
<chat.talkcity.com Port 6667>
They also have a web page at
<http://www.talkcity.com>
which will give you everything you wanted to know about all of
their chats...
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By: Daryl Forrest <dforrest@eagle1.eaglenet.com>
Here are URLs for two more (in addition to Homer):
ircle at <http://www.xs4all.nl/~ircle/>
GlobalChat at <http://www2.prospero.com/globalchat/>
I much prefer ircle over the buggy, but feature-rich Homer and
the buggy and feature-poor GlobalChat. You might want to give
ircle a try!
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By: ga.peach@mindspring.com (ga-peach)
In the last issue of Mac*Chat (#111) you were discussing the best
chat programs for IRC. You mentioned you were all set to try
Homer.
If you haven't tried it....don't bother!!!!!! Instead save
yourself a lot of time and download the latest version of ircle.
Give it a whirl and you will quickly see it is the best program
by far! And if I may, I would like to tell you a few things I
really like about the program.
First off....it has a very small footprint! Homer is a "pretty"
program but it eats up the RAM! Now that in and of itself is
important but there's more!
ircle is much more powerful. One of the greatest ways to chat is
directly to another person through a DCC Chat connection (Direct
Computer to Computer). By using a DCC Chat connection you are
able to side-step the IRC problems such as lag and splits. And as
a channel operator in a channel with a bot you are able to
communicate with the bot and the other operators without being in
the channel. Homer does not, nor will it ever support DCC Chat.
Private messages are a nice little extra in a chat program. It is
like whispering in someone's ear. No one else is able to hear/see
your words except the person to whom they are directed. With
ircle you are able to open a "query" window in the nick of the
person to whom you want to whisper and from that point forward
(during your session) you only have to have that window active to
send a message directly to your intended. You are also able to
log these private messages.
In Homer your private messages are displayed in the same window
as your channel chat. You are not able to log these as a separate
file and it is extremely difficult and time consuming to try to
pick out these private messages from pages and pages of public
logs if you wish to review a private conversation after you log
off.
The developer of ircle is working constantly to improve his
program. He is currently experimenting with the ability to write
scripts into your program much like the program mirc for Windows.
This will make ircle equal with mirc and just as powerful.
Scripts are an important part of maintaining a channel and
without them you are much less effective at protecting your
channel from hackers.
Now, you say, "But Homer may include these extras down the road."
WRONG!!! The developer of Homer has since graduated from college
and went on to bigger and better things. There is no support with
Homer, no plans for the future, it is a dead end program. ircle
will continue to improve and Homer will fall farther and farther
behind.
Since there isn't anything Homer can do better than ircle (other
than a bit of eye candy) why not just learn to use chat on a
program which is only going to continue to improve! Download it
and see the difference!!
(I even paid to register it....I liked it that much!!!!) :-)
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By: J.A.Staplehurst@exeter.ac.uk (John Staplehurst, University of
Exeter, UK)
While I am no IRC expert, I have looked around at what is
available for the Mac, and produced a guide for the novice user
located at:
<http://www.ex.ac.uk/~jastaple/irc/irchelp.html>
which should point people in the right direction. It covers the
three clients I am aware of for the Mac: Homer, ircle and MacIRC.
They are all shareware products for an average fee of $20, and
require System 7. and MacTCP (or perhaps OT?), as well as your
ISP running an Identd Daemon (otherwise IRC will not be available
at all)
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By: markb@ccnet.com (Mark Brautigam)
I found Homer difficult to set up, and it crashed on me several
times. In contrast, Ircle was much smaller, comes with a lot less
documentation, but was easier to set up and understand, and never
has crashed on me.
I only chat with people I know. I'm on several mailing lists that
have regularly scheduled chats. Wandering around from chat to
chat without knowing what's available, when there are thousands
of chats to choose from, can be frustrating and time consuming. I
don't advise it.
BTW, I hear the upcoming version of AOL (3.0) will allow IRC and
other new capabilities. It is supposed to be released in
September.
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By: Martha Pritchard <mpritch@cinternet.net>
Internet is a new thing at work and somehow I have become the
resident expert (not that I see myself as one). Lately, one of my
bosses has had an interest in IRC. He tried Homer and even Ircle,
but when I finally got him around to trying Global Chat, he said
it was much easier (actually said there was nothing to it). It
"expires" every so often, but you can always go back and get an
updated copy again).
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By: nstrong@fox.nstn.ca (Norman Strong)
Netscape Chat is a pretty good program. It works in conjuction
with NN or as a stand alone program.
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By: Paul <ptmon@tusco.net>
"Homer" is the most mac-like and easiest to use.
Iricle is the most powerful, and takes up less ram, but it is
more for "power-users." I recommend anyone switching from AOL to
use "Homer" first. Current version is 0.94
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By: Thomas Parker <parker@commodities.com>
I've used both Homer and ircle extensively, and vastly prefer
ircle. The latest version of ircle does everything Homer does,
and last I checked had some features unimplemented by Homer, like
bans. I also think that ircle supports more completely the irc
commands. Homer looks nicer, with brighter buttons and such, but
ircle is smaller and, in my experience, much more stable.
Both are very easy to set up--when first launched, they'll splash
up the preferences screen to get connected. Enter nickname, user
name, irc server (try us.undernet.org or irc.dal.net to be
connected randomly to a server on the respective irc networks)
and go. Avoid using commands you don't understand or can't
duplicate via the command line--for example, ircle will allow you
to kick and ban someone by clicking a button, but you won't be
able to unban that person unless you know the command line
command and user@host mask that was used by ircle. You'd then
have to ask someone else to do the unban.
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By: Travis Belton <Travis_Belton@smtpnotes.pictel.com>
I found a better solution, at least for me, was to just use any
old telnet program (like NCSA Telnet) and telnet into one of the
many "talkers". This is interactive chat just like IRC, but more
comfortable for me, perhaps because it was a smaller group of
people involved. IF you want to try, one place to start is
<telnet lintilla.df.lth.se 5003>
You can use a 'screenname" and once you have an account, try
other "ports". People on there can give you pointers to other
talkers - most people have several they log into.
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