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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 05 Jun 00       Volume 17 : Issue 93

Today's Topics:

      [*] Biorythms 8
      [*] BitMapmusic 1.6
      [*] CatFinder 2.1.4
      [*] CatFinder 2.1.4 68K
      [*] CDFinder 2.8
      [*] HAX1R3.HQX - A scenario for Realmz
      [*] Power Windows 2.4.1
      [*] Sherlock Plugins 1.7
      [*] Software & Hardware Tracker 3.5
      [*] SPOOKYcons4
      [*] TypeWell Mc 4.1
      [*] Version 1.2 of Beyond All Date
      [*] Window Manager 2.2
      [*] YP Circulaire 1.0.2 (physics simulation software, french version)
      [*] YP Circular 1.0.2 (physics simulation software)
      [Q] PB G3 - Centris connection?
      [R] Eudora and attachments
      Big Hard Drive for Duo 270c?
      Eudora and attachments
      HP Multifunction Printer
      Info-Mac Digest V17 #91
      Info-Mac Digest V17 #91
      Info-Mac Digest V17 #91
      Zip and Jazz
      Zip Drive (R)

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Date: 5 Jun 2000
From: "Hiatus" <agr@hiatus.ndirect.co.uk>
To: 
Subject: [*] Biorythms 8

Biorhythms 8
-------------------

Our minds, bodies and emotions are governed by three natural cycles, known
as biorhythms. Once we realise how we are affected, we can plan our lives
accordingly, so that we take advantage of our peaks of energy and exercise
special caution on "critical" days.

Biorhythms 8 tracks your cycles, and those of your friends and family,
computes compatibilities, searches, prints, and so much more.

Version 8 is a substantial upgrade, making it the most powerful, attractive
and original biorhythm program available on any platform. It has appeared in
a number of Macintosh magazines.

Requires: Mac OS 8.0 (other users should continue to use version 6.1c)
Shareware $15

(c) Hiatus 1992-2000

[Archived as /info-mac/app/biorythms-8.hqx; 1903 K]

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Date: 5 Jun 2000
From: "Kurt Kaufman" <k_kaufman@hotmail.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] BitMapmusic 1.6


BitMapMusic is a free music notation program, suitable for writing a few 
lines of music. It's good for those situations where you don't want to be 
bothered with anything much more complicated than "click and drag".  That 
said, I don't think that this is the tool for your next symphony.... :-)
Printed output, while limited to the screen resolution, is reasonable enough 
to read
comfortably.  BMM can also export to PICT and JPEG format, making it a 
useful tool for Music-As-Graphics and display on the web.

This is the PPC-native version of BitMapMusic 1.6.  A 68k version is also 
available.

Version 1.6 adds the ability to produce JPEG files.

BitMapMusic ¨ 2000 by Kurt Kaufman
http://www2.50megs.com/kkaufman/
kurtkaufman@hotmail.com

Minimum System requirements (PPC version):
* System 7 with QuickTime installed
* PPC 601 processor

[Archived as /info-mac/gst/snd/bitmap-music-16-ppc.hqx; 834 K]

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Date: 5 Jun 2000
From: "Keith Turner" <shdtree@mindspring.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] CatFinder 2.1.4

CatFinder is a powerful disk management tool that catalogs your disks and 
provides an intuitive Finder-like interface for browsing the catalogs.
Floppies, hard disks, CD ROMs, any disk can be cataloged.  Once a disk is
cataloged you can quickly and easily browse it's contents without having the
disk mounted.   CatFinder also offers powerful find and report features that
will help you find and organize your files.

Version 2.1.4 adds support for Stuffit version 5 archives and a native PPC
format.  

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/cat-finder-214.hqx; 378 K]

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Date: 5 Jun 2000
From: "Keith Turner" <shdtree@mindspring.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] CatFinder 2.1.4 68K

This is the 68K version of CatFinder.

CatFinder is a powerful disk management tool that catalogs your disks and
provides an intuitive Finder-like interface for browsing the catalogs.
Floppies, hard disks, CD ROMs, any disk can be cataloged.  Once a disk is
cataloged you can quickly and easily browse it's contents without having the
disk mounted.   CatFinder also offers powerful find and report features that
will help you find and organize your files.

Version 2.1.4 adds support for Stuffit version 5 archives and a native PPC
format.  

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/cat-finder-214-68k.hqx; 348 K]

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Date: 5 Jun 2000
From: "Norbert M. Doerner" <cdfinder@mac.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] CDFinder 2.8

CDFinder is a very fast and powerful tool to create catalog files of your hard
disks, floppies, ZIP's and anything else that spins. It has a great user
interface and very useful search functions. CDFinder supports drag&drop and
requires at least a 68020 or PowerPC CPU. While System 7 is required, CDFinder
is also fully compatible to MacOS 9. A special feature is the multi-lingual user
interface (German/French/English/Italian/Swedish/Chinese).

New features in CDFinder 2.8:

- CDFinder can now import existing catalog files of CatFinder and 
Disk Tracker 1.x.
- .zip archive files can be scanned.
- Apple Installer (Tome) archive files can be scanned. CDFinder is 
the only cataloger to do that!
- A new setup assistant helps first-time users.
- With help of the third-party extension "Audio CD Labeller", 
CDFinder can now catalog the names of audio CDs.
- A number of smaller features and bug-fixes are included, too.

Contact:
Norbert M. Doerner
Mozartstr. 16
64546 Moerfelden-Walldorf
Germany
<mailto:Doerner@kagi.com>   

[Archived as /info-mac/data/cd-finder-28.hqx; 1187 K]

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Date: 5 Jun 2000
From: boru@rainbowdragon.com
To: 
Subject: [*] HAX1R3.HQX - A scenario for Realmz

Welcome to Hax, a scenario for Realmz!               ¨1999,2000 John Rawlins

Hax is a role playing adventure scenario for the popular Macintosh
shareware game Realmz. You have come to the Madwood in search of the
elusive town of Hax. It is said the town is overflowing with precious gems
that impart tremendous powers. Many a brave soul has sought to open a trade
route to Hax. Will you dare find success, where they found naught but an
unmarked grave?

Version 1.3 fixes several monolithic bugs.

Hax 1.3 has been built to run with Realmz version 7.0.9. You may have
differing degrees of success if you run this scenario on a different
version of Realmz.

System requirements for Hax are exactly the same as Realmz system
requirements, to wit:
Realmz requires a Macintosh capable of at least 256 Colors, 5 Meg free RAM
minimum and a display capable of 640 x 480 resolution or better.  It does
NOT work with the old Apple 12" monitors or some laptop monitors that have
a display resolution less than 640 x 480 in size.
You will also need 800K of hard disk space for temporary files during game
play.  This space will be returned to you when you quit Realmz.  If you
encounter an error during the start of a new game, check to make sure you
have at least 800K of hard disk space free. Each saved game will also
require from 300 - 800K of hard drive space depending on the size of the
scenario.

Hax costs $10 to register. You can play about half the game for free, then
you need to register if you want to continue.

Hax can only be played on registered copies of Realmz.

PS - It's fine to include Hax on the Info-Mac CD-ROMs.

John Rawlins

[Archived as /info-mac/game/adv/rlmz/hax-13.hqx; 1350 K]

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Date: 4 Jun 2000
From: Greg Landweber <greg@kaleidoscope.net>
To: 
Subject: [*] Power Windows 2.4.1


Power Windows 2.4.1 (31 May 2000)
by Greg Landweber, author of Kaleidoscope, Aaron, SmoothType, and 
Greg's Browser

Power Windows is a small control panel that taps into your Mac's 
unused processor power to perform amazingly cool effects with windows 
and menus. Power Windows was originally conceived to let you drag the 
entire contents of windows instead of just a dotted outline. It 
offers both solid and translucent window dragging, and you can even 
enable multitasking with solid dragging. Power Windows also has 
options for fading Finder windows (in place of the zoom rectangle 
animation), fading menus, and as of version 2.4, translucent menus!

Version 2.4.1 is a maintenance release, which adds support for 
translucent menus in Appearance Themes, as well as fixing conflicts 
with TitlePop and SwitchBack. Power Windows is shareware, with a 
registration fee of $10.-- 

-- Greg Landweber
    greg@kaleidoscope.net

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/power-windows-241.hqx; 111 K]

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Date: 3 Jun 2000
From: Lars Bell <lars@praestare.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] Sherlock Plugins 1.7


The newest collection of Sherlock Plugins.  If you use our sherlock 
plugins you will find what you are looking for on the net 100% of the 
time. If you don't go to www.sherlockplugins.com/guarantee.html and 
we will look for you.

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/sherlock-plugins-17.hqx; 260 K]

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Date: 4 Jun 2000
From: DXoft Technical Support <support@dxoft.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] Software & Hardware Tracker 3.5


Software & Hardware Tracker 3.5
by DXoft <mailto:support@dxoft.com>
<http://www.dxoft.com>

June 3rd, 2000.

Version 3.5 of Software & Hardware Tracker is now available.

Main changes in version 3.5:

- Corrected a bug in the Workstation Model field validation options.
- Cleaned up a lot of scripts' "messages".
- Added fields to the Product, Purchase and License Trackers to let version
3.5 export records compatible with the new Software & Hardware Tracker 4
file format.
- The source of the issue affecting Purchase IDs' calculations has now been
identified and is now listed as a "known issue". It's fixed in the upcoming
Software & Hardware Tracker 4.

All Software & Hardware Tracker 3.x users should download and install this
free update.

## About Software & Hardware Tracker ##

A CNET/Download.com "Premiere" and "Top Pick" and a BizProWeb "Pick of the
Day", Software & Hardware Tracker is a collection of FileMaker Pro 3.0/4.0
relational database which will help you collect, store and organize useful
information (such as registration codes, serial numbers, product notes,
etc.) about all your computer products (hardware and software). Relying on
the standard Internet Config system, Software & Hardware Tracker is
perfectly integrated with your other Internet software. It also keeps track
of all your contact information for software and hardware developers,
distributors and places of purchase, turning it into a powerful contact and
Internet bookmark manager.

Software & Hardware Tracker 3 is compatible with FileMaker Pro 5 once
converted to the new version's file format. The conversion happens
automatically when one opens Software & Hardware Tracker using FileMaker Pro
5 or later.

Software & Hardware Tracker is being distributed as shareware. Several
registration and upgrade options are available. Registrations are handled by
Kagi Shareware.

[Archived as /info-mac/data/soft-hard-tracker-35.hqx; 2695 K]

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Date: 3 Jun 2000
From: nmjb@mindspring.com
To: 
Subject: [*] SPOOKYcons4


HI!
Here's a set of Icons that could'nt wait for Halloween!!..Actually
I have a new e-mail address and wanted to keep up to date..There
FREE!so spread them around and enjoy!..Send me a note,tell me what
you think..John Beckwith

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/icon/spooky-cons-4.hqx; 275 K]

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Date: 3 Jun 2000
From: "Wm. Rogers" <wroger@tiac.net>
To: 
Subject: [*] TypeWell Mc 4.1


WinType_Mc is a touch typing tutor that can be used
for regular typing or the special Dvorak typing.

TypeWell_Mc is a great program for adults or children who
want to improve their typing speed and accuracy. The program
comes with a spelling checker, user-defined speed goals,
score sheets, time tracking with rest signals, and many
other helpful features. You can get the registered version
of the program by mail or by email.

Note to school site-license seekers: There is also a
Windows version (WinTypeWell) available that can be ordered
together with TypeWell_Mc for a single price.
Wm. Rogers, Ph.D.
Practical Press

[Archived as /info-mac/edu/type-well-mc-41.hqx; 471 K]

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Date: 5 Jun 2000
From: Michael Rathmann <rathmann@milesinfo.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] Version 1.2 of Beyond All Date

Version 1.2 of Beyond All Date is now available.

Beyond All Date is an incredible flexible calendar which includes 
holidays, moon phases, sun set and rise and a lot more information.

Use alarms to remind you of important meetings, birthdays, events. 
Use a well designed task list to keep track of all your important 
activities. Beyond All Date allows you to specify repeatable and 
recurring events to handle any kind of appointments.

Use Beyond All Date's AppleScript functionality to better suit it for 
your personal needs.

Minimal configuration to install Beyond All Date
Power PC Macintosh computer
System 7.5 or higher
32 MB RAM

[Archived as /info-mac/app/time/beyond-all-date-12.hqx; 2214 K]

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Date: 3 Jun 2000
From: John Rethorst <jrethorst@post.com>
To: 
Subject: [*] Window Manager 2.2


Stack, tile or set/restore custom arrangements of any or all applications,
to any part of the screen. Make and name any number of sets of which
windows of what applications go where. Switch by keystroke or menu.

New in this version:

*   Custom stacking and tiling areas are now set by matching the bounds of
the front window, rather than numerical specification, providing an order
of magnitude increase in speed and elegance.

*   New command to set/restore custom arrangements for any specific
application.

*   Spacing of tiled windows matches the window definitions of different
Mac OS versions.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/window-manager-22.hqx; 200 K]

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Date: 3 Jun 2000
From: Yves Pelletier <ypelletier@freenet.carleton.ca>
To: 
Subject: [*] YP Circulaire 1.0.2 (physics simulation software, french version)


This is the french version of YP Circular.

YP Circular is a physics simulation program for the Macintosh.  It
simulates an object in uniform circular motion and/or an object in simple
harmonic motion.  Both motions (circular and harmonic) may be animated
simultaneously to show that the uniform circular motion is a combination of
two simple harmonic motions.  Physics teachers use YP Circular to show that
the velocity is tangent to the circle and that the centripetal acceleration
is directed toward the center of the circle, in a uniform circular motion.
Physics students using YP Circular should get a better understanding of the
meaning of the following concepts:  vector, component of a vector,
position, velocity, acceleration.

New in this version: Revised documentation and some minor aesthetic changes
(new Finder icon, etc.).
Yves Pelletier

Logiciels de physique:  http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ch865/
Physics software:       http://www.kagi.com/pelletier
Progressive rock CD's:  http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ch865/progCDs.html

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/yp-circulaire-102-fr.hqx; 261 K]

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Date: 3 Jun 2000
From: Yves Pelletier <ypelletier@freenet.carleton.ca>
To: 
Subject: [*] YP Circular 1.0.2 (physics simulation software)


YP Circular is a physics simulation program for the Macintosh.  It
simulates an object in uniform circular motion and/or an object in simple
harmonic motion.  Both motions (circular and harmonic) may be animated
simultaneously to show that the uniform circular motion is a combination of
two simple harmonic motions.  Physics teachers use YP Circular to show that
the velocity is tangent to the circle and that the centripetal acceleration
is directed toward the center of the circle, in a uniform circular motion.
Physics students using YP Circular should get a better understanding of the
meaning of the following concepts:  vector, component of a vector,
position, velocity, acceleration.

New in this version: Revised documentation and some minor aesthetic changes
(new Finder icon, etc.).

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/yp-circular-102.hqx; 240 K]

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:08:23 -0400
From: Donald Webb <donwebb@attcanada.ca>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: [Q] PB G3 - Centris connection?


Sorry for asking what must be a really basic question, but any useful 
advice may mean I can give my daughter-in-law a Centris 650!  First I 
need to clean up the Centris' internal hard disk, install system 
8.5.1, things like that.

Problem:  I need to connect my PowerBook G3 (OS 8.5.1) to my old 
Centris 650.  It almost connects, but not quite.

The Centris is daisy-chained to an Apple external hard disk.  SCSI 
Probe 5.1 opens the hard disk, all right, but the Centris doesn't 
appear in the dialogue box.  There does not seem to be any problem 
with the connection; when a scanner is connected to the external hard 
disk, it works fine.

Is it a SCSI ID conflict?  Too much termination?  I'm not sure where 
to start looking.

I once managed to connect to the Centris through the modem port, but 
that was quite a while ago, and the file transfer was much too slow 
to be practical.

Thanks in advance,

Don Webb
<donwebb@netcom.ca>

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:06:44 -0400
From: Donald Webb <donwebb@attcanada.ca>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: [R] Eudora and attachments


Lobo writes about a stall in Eudora:

>  >*Nearly every time*, I am unable  to send attachments using Eudora 4.3.2.
>  >[...] I then  have to do a force quit and restart.

To which Christian Buser replies:

>Eudora 4.3.2 does a very good job for me and I never hat this 
>experience. Must be something with your ISP or with your 
>configuration.

Christian may well be right.  Like him, I haven't had any problems 
with attachments in Eudora 4.3.2.  However, I have had a lot of 
connection problems.  Advice from my ISP has seemed to help, and, who 
knows, it may apply to the attachment difficulties as well.

Apparently Eudora can encounter memory conflicts with other programs 
or files -- I don't know which -- and this can prevent a number of 
things from working.  One option is to restart; but rather than take 
the time I open Mac OS Purge 1.0.1 prior to opening Eudora or logging 
on.  I'm having far fewer problems now.

I hope this helps.

Don Webb
<donwebb@netcom.ca>

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 17:09:05 -0400
From: "SteveCraft" <scraft@nothinbut.net>
To: <digest@info-mac.org>
Subject: Big Hard Drive for Duo 270c?


The internal 240mb hard drive is just way too small for this system.  Can
anyone recommend a reseller with a larger HD, hopefully a kit so I can
install it myself?

Thanks.

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:39:49 +0000
From: Peter Grundy <peter@plalp.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Christian F Buser <cbuser@mus.ch>, digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Eudora and attachments

At 11:17 pm +0200 1/6/00, Christian F Buser scribed:
>Eudora 4.3.2 does a very good job for me and I never hat this 
>experience. Must be something with your ISP or with your 
>configuration.

Hi Christian

Thanks for taking time out to reply to my problem.

I have a Geoport Telecom (internal, 28800) and come to the conclusion 
that it is likely to be my ISP (or the modem) and not Eudora.

Regards.

Peter.

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:20:49 -0400
From: Tom Fortmann <tom@fortmann.org>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: HP Multifunction Printer

I have long wanted an HP Multifunction Printer (printer, scanner, 
copier, & fax) but they never worked on Macs.  Recently the 
R80/R60/R40 models appeared in the MacConnection catalog.  I called 
various HP numbers and found one person who thought the R80 would 
work on a Mac and two others who swore that no HP multifunction 
devices are Mac-compatible.  Then I called MacConnection and they 
told me it's discontinued.

CompUSA also says it's discontinued, but they have a few left in 
stores and I'm tempted to buy one and try it.  Does anyone know 
what's going on, why this model is discontinued, and whether it's any 
good?

Tom Fortmann

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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:25:53 -0400
From: Saint John <StJ@mac.com>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #91

At 20:31 -0400 5/31/00, The Info-Mac Network wrote:
>Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:29:39 +0000
>From: me@none.co.uk (Lobo)
>To: comp-sys-mac-digest@moderators.isc.org
>Subject: Eudora and attachments
>
>*Nearly every time*, I am unable  to send attachments using Eudora 4.3.2.
>The most recent time was an attachment of 2MB but the little pendulum stops
>swinging and the screen freezes. I then  have to do a force quit and
>restart.  Occasionally it will send an attachment, but it is UNRELIABLE. I
>have tried attachment of 512k and 250k but no joy.

   I use Eudora incessantly, and the only time I have trouble sending and
receiving attachments is to/from an AOL user. For real ISPs, the process
flows smooth as silk.
   Some setting somewhere is awry; it may also be an extension conflict.
Try first with a minimal extension set and see if that fixes the problem.
Also, try several different encoding schemes-- such as MIME, AppleSingle,
BinHex, and UUencode. (They're in the third popup menu in the upper left of
the message window.)

+- Saint John <StJ@Mac.com> <http://www.dusers.drexel.edu/~stjohn/> -+
+- All my money goes for child support... INNER child support. ------+

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:28:58 -0500
From: Mike Calmus <mcalmus@nyx.net>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #91

It did not work for me using Netscape 4.7 but it did work fine using 
IE 5 for Mac which is technically the only Mac browser claiming to 
fully support cascading style sheets. It may also work on Netscape 6, 
but I didn't try.

You wrote:
>Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 15:36:47 -0400
>From: "abrody@smart.net" <abrody@smart.net>
>To: digest@info-mac.org
>Subject: a page that loads on PC browsers but not on Mac browsers
>
>Dear Digest readers,
>Well somebody here wanted to build a b2b page, but what's really
>interesting is that the stylesheet loads the right table column on
>top of the inner right table column, blocking its view.
>http://www.directoris.i12.com/
>
>If you load this same page on Netscape & Internet Explorer on the PC
>it doesn't do that, but it does do that on both Mac web browsers.
>It looks like Gates & Barksdale owe us an explanation why they are
>coding the way stylesheets are read differently in their browsers on
>the Mac side from those on the PC side.   I suggest that anyone with
>any input into the development of both browsers make sure that
>stylesheets load consistently across platforms.
>
>If your web browser doesn't give you problems, and you are on the Mac
>side, please let me know.  Because here is what I got when I loaded
>it:
>
>http://www.index-site.com/image.gif
>
>I made a screen capture here showing the problems with this webpage.
>
>Sincerely,
>abrody@smart.net

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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:26:46 -0400
From: Saint John <StJ@mac.com>
To: digest@info-mac.org
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V17 #91

At 20:31 -0400 5/31/00, The Info-Mac Network wrote:
>Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:16:22 -0400
>From: "abrody@smart.net" <abrody@smart.net>
>To: digest@info-mac.org
>Subject: (Q) lost hard disk space
>
>Dear Digest readers,
>Oh I am aware of the block/byte scenario on hard disks, but is that
>all there is to explain why hard drives from major manufacturers are
>losing up to 7% of their space every time they are formatted?

   A number of reasons:
	[1] Actual lost space. For some completely insane reason,
manufacturers like to (or at least used to like to) format their drives in
round numbers. So a drive with 22.1 Mb of space would be formatted as 20
Mb. If you used a decent formatter and partitioner, which in those days
meant FWB Hard Disk Toolkit or similar, you could regain that lost space.
	[2] Bad sectors. Drives keep a list of sectors that shouldn't even
be handed to the OS. Further, the OS keeps a list, too. I believe they
consider different things to be "errors," and I may be completely wrong--
but this bleeds off sectors, even on new disks.
	[3] The volume table of contents and other housekeeping storage
areas. This is probably the biggest space-stealer. The more space you have
on a disk, the more space you need to keep track of it.
	[4] The trash. Files aren't deleted immediately, but marked for
later deletion-- which takes place when you Empty Trash. Mac people do this
a lot more often than Windows people, I've noticed.
	[5] Invisible files. TheFindByContentFolder, Shutdown Check,
OpenFolderListDF, DesktopPrinters DF, Desktop DB, Desktop DF, and such
proprietary files as Virex SpeedScan all take up space.

   Reformatting the disk will get some of this back (especially the
optional files, such as the FindByContent stuff). On a 100 Mb Zip disk, I
almost always get 94.7 Mb of usable space.

+- Saint John <StJ@Mac.com> <http://www.dusers.drexel.edu/~stjohn/> -+
+- All my money goes for child support... INNER child support. ------+

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:28:54 -0400
From: Allan Hunter <ahunter3@earthlink.net>
To: norm@helix.nih.gov
Subject: Zip and Jazz

At 8:31 PM -0400 6/2/00, norm@helix.gov wrote:
>Hi,
>Anyone using both Zip and Jazz? I currently have my Performa using a
>Zip drive and have bought a Jazz 1m drive. I would like to use both
>together, at least chained together. Until I can get the Jazz up, I
>need things on the Zip. Can anyone explain the procedure for putting
>them both onto the Performa? Simple instructions please! Thanks in
>advance.
>

Any Mac old enough to be a Performa is using the SCSI versions of Zip 
and Jaz drive, so these instructions assume SCSI.

You daisy-chain the devices.  The cable that came with the Zip goes 
from computer to Zip.  You need a SCSI cable that will go from the 
other port on the back of the Zip to the Jaz and I *think* the cable 
that comes with the Jaz will fit the empty port on the back of the 
Zip.

Iomega uses nonstandard SCSI ports--

Everyone else uses those big 50-pin Centronix connectors for external 
peripheral devices, and therefore with almost all other peripheral 
devices you connect your first device with a DB-25 to Centronix 50 
cable (which usually ships with the device), and to daisy-chain all 
other devices you use a 50-pin Centronix to 50-pin Centronix cable 
(and your closet collects lots of DB25-to-Centronix-50 cables because 
all devices ship with them and not the 50-to-50 cables).

An Iomega Zip drive comes with its own DB25-to-DB25 cable, and the 
second port on the back is ALSO a DB25.  I have never owned an Iomega 
Jaz (I owned an offbrand Jaz that used standard ports) but I've seen 
them in passing, and if I recall correctly, they have a cable 
attached to the Jaz at one end and intended for connecting to the 
computer on the other, in other words, the end that DOESN'T go into 
the Jaz is a DB-25.  That's perfect if that's what you've got; you 
just connect it to the other port on the back of the Zip.

[If for some reason this isn't so, disconnect the Zip from your 
computer and bring Zip, Jaz, and the cables they came with to a 
computer supply store and tell them you need some combination of 
adapters and cables that will let you daisy-chain them.]

Once the devices are daisy-chaines, you need to set the termination 
and the SCSI IDs.  The Zip only lets you choose between 6 and 7.  The 
Jaz can be set to any ID except the one used by the Zip, or 0 (which 
is your internal hard drive), or the ID of your CDROM drive (which is 
most likely 3).  The easiest choice is to set the Jaz to 7 if the Zip 
is 6 or vice versa.  For termination, there is a slider switch 
somewhere on the plastic case of the Zip and the Jaz (on/off); the 
Zip should be OFF and the Jaz should be ON.

Once they are hooked up like this and you have the power supplies of 
both Zip and Jaz hooked up and so on, boot your Performa and you 
should have both drives working concurrently with no problem.

-- 
Allan Hunter

<ahunter3@earthlink.net>
<http://home.earthlink.net/~ahunter>

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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 17:53:51 +0200
From: Christian F Buser <cbuser@mus.ch>
To: Chuck Hooker <HookC@dibbs.net>
Subject: Zip Drive (R)

At Thu, 01 Jun 2000 09:42:49 +0000, Chuck Hooker <HookC@dibbs.net> wrote:

>We have an extra internal Iomega Zip drive that could start doing some
>needed work as an external drive. Does anyone have a suggestion on
>locating a surplus external housing, with the needed connectors, etc.,
>without paying a ransom to Iomega?

You can easily take an  enclosure of a defunct CD-ROM drive or so and 
put the Zip drive into. You need some mounting brackets to "bridge" 
the gap between 5.25" (CD-ROM) and 3.5" (Zip drive), as well as a 
front cover. These items should be readily available in your 
electronics or computer store.

Of course, these instructions apply only if the Zip is a SCSI device. 
I have no experience what you could do with IDE connected devices.

Best wishes, Christian.
-- 
Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)
Look at <http://www.mus.ch/members/cbuser>
Wenn nicht jetzt, wann dann? (Petra Kelly)

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